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Crypt024C Mokele Mbembe by Dragonsmana Crypt024C Mokele Mbembe by Dragonsmana
Cryptid File 024C - Mokele Mbembe

Location - African Congo

Evidence - Sightings, Photos, Footprints, Recorded Vocalization, Native Legends.

My thoughts and theories: Alright, much of the following opinion may (and most certainly will) offend creationist. If you don't want to read it, then don't that simple. Don't come crying to me with your so called "arguements". because I won't have any of it! Faith don't hold up in a laboratory folks. If you can't test it in a lab or see it under a microscope, its not real science.

Ok, ever since I was a little kid I have been in love with the idea that somewhere, out there, within the unseen wilds of Africa, or on a unkown island dinosaurs still roam, ready to be discovered! But, in recent years I have noticed that this childhood dream is being capitalized on by creationist, young earth creationist more often than not. As an athiest, and lover of dinosaurs, this just pisses me off. These people actually believe that finding a dinosaur that supposadly went extinct 65 million years ago, will throw science out the window, step on it, beat it with a stick, and finally burn it for heresy. This dream of thier's will be the one that is crushed. Well, technically its already been crushed, heres why. Apparently, finding a live Apatosaurus will prove that:

Animals can't go extinct: WRONG!

The Earth is only 6000 years old: WRONG!

Evolution doesn't happen: WRONG! FAIL! GO HOME!

I will adress each of these one at a time.

Animals can't go extinct: Wait? What? So the Dodo and Mammoth never existed in the first place? Species go extinct due to overhunting as with the aforementioned examples. Being out competed, if two animals occupy the same niche in nature within the same area, the one that of which is more efficient in fulfilling the niche will out compete the other, driving them out by limiting thier food supply, without food they don't live long enough to breed, and if they do the young starve and die...... And look, its basically common sense from here. Enviormental changes can leave one or several species without food, process above is basically repeated. Despite this they say "god" won't let animals go extinct. Sure, tell that to the dinosaurs. They are turning in thier graves. Besides, the coelacanth that is alive today is a species that isn't even in the fossil record. Plus, if they want to see some prehistoric creatures to help prove themselves, then I suggest they going swimming with sharks and crocodiles. They have been around since the mezoic era.......

Earth is only 6000 years old: "When god made earth, why did he rest on the seventh day? To figure out how the hell Chuck Norris built Jupiter so fast!" - My personal Chuck Norris joke, everybody gets one lol. But seriously, there is a test called carbon dating in which the elements within a material are measured, and compared to the original elements in which the rate of decay and half lifes of the element is measured to determine how old the object is. Granted that it can't can't tell you the exact second it died or lived, but still can be pretty damn accurate enough to be consider a valid method of scientific testing should be enough. If not, there is an entire profession known as "geology" which shows how rocks are formed, and how layers of of strata build up over time from natural forces such as wind and erosion, this process is called deposition. The longer the earth has been here, the more strata. Even if they did find a live dinosaur, they would still have to undermine several more sciences in order to prove that thier is some sort of supreme being that comes out of nowhere to make it all. You may notice I am not going into terrible detail, just getting the basic point across or this description will be HUGE! Besides, the earth was still a ball of fire at that age......

Evolution doesn't happen: Oh boy, now you've pissed me off. Evolution is the process in which a species changes over time into another in order to fill a certain niche within an enviorment. This is what forms food chains and webs, all species go through it. Most evolutionary advances are "mistakes" made within the cell or DNA when replicating. Or in the case of more complex beings such as humans, when passing on genes through a method such as sex, rather than simple cell division, traits are mixed and matched randomly in an amalgamation of it's parents, this method allows for a much wider variation within a species. Small mutations or "errors" when these genes are passed on or created in cell division they produce more variation which can be either beneficial or harmful to the individual or individuals in which this mutation occurs. It doesn't work by, a mouthless fish suddenly giving birth to a fish with one. NO! NO! NO! These changes happen very slowly of the course of many, many years. The earliest known jaw like structure was on the Anomalocaris, jawed fishes did not come till later, when it is shown through fossil evidence that fish with bent ridges were "favored" for thier ability to scoop up more food, eventually this feature developed into a jaw, which paved the way for it's descendants (amphibians, reptiles, dinosaurs, mammmals, ya know, pretty much everything) to develop jaws dependant on thier ecologic niche, wether in be a predator or prey. Notice the Darwin finches, when Charles Darwin went to the Galapagos he noticed that several species of finches had different shaped beaks depending on thier diet, such as large sturdy beaks for cracking open seeds and others had small beaks for tearing the needles off cacti and using them to to get to insect larva within the bark of trees. Just goes to show, that he didn't just go spouting his mouth off without something (that example being only one of many) to back it up! Unlike many religious people I've seen. Another arguement by creationist is that there are no transitional species, WRONG! VERY VERY WRONG! Even though technically EVERY SPECIES IS A TRANSITIONAL SPECIES, they really don't see it, so here are a couple that would be exactly what they would be looking for. Even still they ignore them.

Archeaopteryx - Not a hoax, many test have been done to prove it's authenticity. It is 100% real! Deal with it!

Ambulocetus - An early species that somewhat resembled a crocodile, but is actually an early ancestor of whales.

Microraptor - Smaller, featheryer version of the Archeaopteryx.

Lariosaurus - See for yourself, as drawn by my friend :iconmiyess: [link]

And a whole slew of other species that they continue to ignore. Plus, a living dinosaur does nothing to harm evolution, finding one does not prove that species can change over time, it simply shows how well adapted an organism is to said enviornment. I doubt that they are completely unchanged anyway. I had the idea for it being some sort of dwarf species the other day, but I doubt its name would allow for that.

I just feel that this is the wrong crowd that cryptozoology has been forced to hang out with. People already take cryptozoology as a joke, we don't need others adding to it. Alright, thats enough of that, onto the actual cryptid!_______________________________________________

Mokele Mbembe is a supposed sauropod that lives deep within the african Congo, it's name literally means "He who stops the flow of rivers". Mokele Mbembe is said to leave behind three toed tracks, have a long neck and tail, and spend much of its time in the water. It is only one of many cryptids in Africa that harken back to a prehistoric era. I for one believe that it would be very easy for such a large creature to hide within the deep reccess of the Congo.

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Bahmo Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2010
Thank you for thumbing your nose at creationists.
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Giggarex Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
What if this creature was a dinosaur but something like a small prosauropod (or sauropod) that was about the size of a cat (thus filling the little herbivore niche while at the same time allowing it to cross the K-T boundary). Then evolved to be a large aquatic animal (its carnivore habits may be explained with that carnivore sauropod hypothesis).

We all know that such an explanation though would be ignored by a religious zealot.
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Dragonsmana Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
Well its said to be a herbivore, and only kill hippos and elephants for invading it's territory. But its never been said to eat them. But it might if the giant aquatic monitor lizard theory is correct.


Glad to see someone with some sense.
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Giggarex Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
The key to science is not to be biased to any one idea but to be open to several ideas, round it down to the most likely, then see what it is. I think the monitor theory is a little odd personally but if it isn't a dinosaur it is probably a lizard of some sort.

Still hard to imagine people find it hard to reason a bee hummingbird is a dinosaur.
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:icondragonsmana:
Dragonsmana Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
Ya the monitor theory was proposed by somebody who thought it was a good match for the description. Not a real fan of that one.

Its just that people often think of evolution happening in individuals instead of generations. Thats one of the biggest misconceptions about it.
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Giggarex Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
It just occured to me that the flexy neck is not dino material unless apllied to a bird or therapod (okay they are the same sue me). What if it is a therizinosaur that went on all fours and is convergent with sauropods and swans. It would lose its down feathers in return for fat and scale like skin (the skin of an elephant looks like it has scales at a distance after all).

I would say "Darn you pokemon!" if it wasn't creationists that used pokemon against us.
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:icondragonsmana:
Dragonsmana Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
Also very possible. And yet we can't tell until we get in there and get one! But theres so much civil unrest down there you don't wanna end up like Dian Fossey after all....
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Giggarex Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
Go in that super suit then. That dude who made a bear suit made one that can block a rocket launcher.
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:icongiggarex:
Giggarex Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
It just occured to me that the flexy neck is not dino material unless apllied to a bird or therapod (okay they are the same sue me). What if it is a therizinosaur that went on all fours and is convergent with sauropods and swans. It would lose its down feathers in return for fat and scale like skin (the skin of an elephant looks like it has scales at a distance after all).

I would say "Darn you pokemon!" if it wasn't creationists that used pokemon against us.
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rodimus45 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2008
i hate those bible-humping gow wads saying EVOLUTION DOESNT EXSISTS,EVERYTHING WAS AS IT IS TODAY AND WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY
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